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Yes, remove Loot Scaling. (Or /signed) 566 68.19%
No, it's fine as it is. (Or /notsigned) 106 12.77%
I have a slightly different view that I have expressed below in an elaborate manner. 8 0.96%
Cake is ****ing delicious. 150 18.07%
Voters: 830. This poll is closed

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Old Apr 06, 2008, 01:02 AM // 01:02   #1161
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So this thread has become the fellowship of the 5 loot scaling defenders against the rest? GO Cake!
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 01:53 AM // 01:53   #1162
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Actually, the biggest whiners in this thread are very clearly the small minority of pro-loot nerf ANet fanboys. Shame the (larger) pro-cake loby isn't as vocal, it would be more interesting.

However, I don't like phrases such as whiner or fanboy, so how about we not do that, eh?
Majority doesnt always mean it's right. There was a time where it took a very long time for a few to convince the majority that the Earth was not flat. Or the the Earth was not the center of the universe.

And your insult fails. We "fanboys" arent the ones whining about LS. So you calling us the biggest whiners is pathetic.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 01:54 AM // 01:54   #1163
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No, it's fine as it is. (Or /notsigned) 76 14.05%
Cake is ****ing delicious. 88 16.27%

lol
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56   #1164
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No, it's fine as it is. (Or /notsigned) 76 14.05%
Cake is ****ing delicious. 88 16.27%

lol
"The masses are asses" - Alexander Hamilton
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:02 AM // 02:02   #1165
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When it was introduced then it was necessary.
Now it's not.
Abolish it and that'll probably bring back people who have quit.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:04 AM // 02:04   #1166
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There are some things that will never happen as the game is right now regardless of how much people ask about it:

- Full hero party
- LS removal
- Auction House
- More than 8 skills
- PvE skills in PvP
- Going back to old favor system
- Buy gold in GW Shop
etc...

Design, resources, time, politics...

Whatever the reason is, they'll just never happen as the game is right now. Please understand that.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05   #1167
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"The masses are asses" - Alexander Hamilton
"Hell is other people" - Sarte

Like I said earlier, people do not always know what is best for them. If you ask 300 college students, they will want the drinking age lowered. Is doing that a good idea just because they want it? No.


Edit @holababe: Just because there aren't that many bots right now due to reccent policies, doesn't mean they can't come back/get smarter to avoid detection. And if you remove LS, you just make it that much easier for bots to return.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:07 AM // 02:07   #1168
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There are some things that will never happen as the game is right now regardless of how much people ask about it:

- Full hero party
- LS removal
- Auction House
- More than 8 skills
- PvE skills in PvP
- Going back to old favor system
- Buy gold in GW Shop
etc...

Design, resources, time, politics...

Whatever the reason is, they'll just never happen as the game is right now. Please understand that.
Because they're stupid suggestions? Buying gold in the GW Store is clearly stupid. The only one there (apart from LS removal) that actually makes sense is an Auction House.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:10 AM // 02:10   #1169
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Because they're stupid suggestions? Buying gold in the GW Store is clearly stupid. The only one there (apart from LS removal) that actually makes sense is an Auction House.
And yet you can't see that LS removal is also stupid....
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:11 AM // 02:11   #1170
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Reasons may be different, but all of them have in common that many people support them (or at least in some cases they think that they are many, well, they always think they are many, XD) and that Anet has planted a rotund 'no' in front of them.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:12 AM // 02:12   #1171
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Yeah, that's true Mithran

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And yet you can't see that LS removal is also stupid....
But it's not.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:16 AM // 02:16   #1172
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But it's not.
And the point is that full hero parties also have the support of the majority. Yet you think it's stupid. LS removal has the support of the majority as well. Draw your own conclusion from that...
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20   #1173
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It's not stupid.
Some things are not stupid or smart.

Making a mission to have a trap that permanently deletes your character's equipment would be stupid.

Removing LS just don't fit GW1.
Is just that.

There are games that are mant to work like that, with characters farming anf farming.
A good example is Ragnarok Online, with those LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW drops rates.

But not in GW. In GW you can get anything. Not almost anything, ANYTHING. By playing normally with other players, and you can even get more stuff by doing so.
You can even get more cash by interacting even more with other players with trades.
But you are not meant to gather insane amounts of gold to get anything.

You can farm if you want, but you don't need to at all. And LS is one of the keys in that.

The basics of the design of the game are something that only the developers touch. Like having 8 skills.

It doesn't matter if you want to farm or be a runner.
Anet wont stop you, but will not help you in that either. You are not supposed to do so anyways.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:23 AM // 02:23   #1174
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im voting for loot scing to be removed the only thing im scared of is what will happen to the market. i never played before loot scalling so i dont know what it was like can someone explain what they think will happen.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:26 AM // 02:26   #1175
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"Hell is other people" - Sarte

Like I said earlier, people do not always know what is best for them. If you ask 300 college students, they will want the drinking age lowered. Is doing that a good idea just because they want it? No.


Edit @holababe: Just because there aren't that many bots right now due to reccent policies, doesn't mean they can't come back/get smarter to avoid detection. And if you remove LS, you just make it that much easier for bots to return.
lets ask the 30 year olds if we should lower the drinking age...
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:27 AM // 02:27   #1176
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There are some things that will never happen as the game is right now regardless of how much people ask about it:

- Full hero party
- LS removal
- Auction House
- More than 8 skills
- PvE skills in PvP
- Going back to old favor system
- Buy gold in GW Shop
etc...

Design, resources, time, politics...

Whatever the reason is, they'll just never happen as the game is right now. Please understand that.
YAY Finally we agree...have a cigar. <grin>
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:30 AM // 02:30   #1177
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I know several people who would all jump back in to Guild Wars if either Loot Scaling was removed, all titles became account-wide (multi-character friendly), hero cap was removed, or any combination thereof.
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:34 AM // 02:34   #1178
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lets ask the 30 year olds if we should lower the drinking age...
Hell no, just look at the minds of the teenagers now, think what would happen if you allowed them to drink! hahaha


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I know several people who would all jump back in to Guild Wars if either Loot Scaling was removed, all titles became account-wide (multi-character friendly), hero cap was removed, or any combination thereof.
And I know several people whou would all quit if they did such a thing. So cancels each other out might just as well leave those several you know out and not waste any resources changing anything to another. <grin>
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:34 AM // 02:34   #1179
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I'm sick of farming raptors and only getting 5 drops per 33 or so Raptors. And I don't even farm often
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:50 AM // 02:50   #1180
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im voting for loot scing to be removed the only thing im scared of is what will happen to the market. i never played before loot scalling so i dont know what it was like can someone explain what they think will happen.
before LS.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10273477

prices exploded, gold was worth literally nothing, the rich could outbuy whole sectors of the market and actively contributed to the shit that the "economy" became.

the gap between the rich and poor reached a point where the rich could (thanks to the stupid amounts of money they had) jack up the prices on NPC merchants to the point where normal players HAD to farm to be able to afford BASIC stuff.

this was back in the days when the "average" player had 20k to their name....it was retarded.
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